Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectorial horns
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bowtie427ss
A benevolent and generous fella really, i can't fault him for misplacing his brand loyalty for i once drove a Ford.:snickerpup:
:lol: Hey. I've owned Shoverollits too.
Actually, I love American iron in it's best examples...I certainly wouldn't turn down a Hemi Cuda, for instance...a friend owned an original Shelby GT500 from 68, i used to race a 428 Mustang...I had one of the original 68's which are pretty rare...it was a beast...then there are 427 Bowtie Corvettes...drool.
Even something as a pedestrian 68 RoadRunner will turn my head.
My short list of 5 cars would include mostly American but several different brands...
Ford to their credit, was very loyal about supporting racers in their old days. To GM's credit, it's much easier and cheaper to build a Chevy motor...
Still rue the day I parted with a 421 tripower Pontiac convertible...
Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectorial horns
No worries OG, i'm not as narrow minded as i usually appear. When it comes to American cars i really have no loyalty anymore, i've learned to hate them all equally.
Credit where it's due, Ford IMO, offered some of the nicest body lines, and hands down the best sounding factory exhaust of the golden muscle era.
My neighbor who owns an industrial equipment painting business and a garbage packer business has an extensive collection of Fords, T-birds, Shelbys, and 'stangs mostly. His daily drivers are an explorer and a powerstroke crew cab dually for hauling the race cars. They drag race mostly, but the old man does like to run his race trimmed GT 500 at Watkins Glen a couple times a year. The alcohol dragsters are of course Bowtie powered, they do a lot of winning. The die hard Ford fans here in upstate NY know that the Bowtie is usually First On Race Day:D
FWIW, a little "big block" history. The chief design engineer of the GM MK IV big block engines was a fella by the name of William Knudson. At some point in the early 2nd half of the 60's Mr Knudson fell into disagreement with upper management when they wanted to further develop the small block engine family. Mr Knudson promptly tendered his resignation.
Lee Iacocca being the man of vision, promptly employed Mr Knudson, and you can almost directly thank him for the 428, 429, and ultimately what evolved into the 460.
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Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectorial horns
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Originally Posted by
bowtie427ss
Lee Iacocca being the man of vision, promptly employed Mr Knudson, and you can almost directly thank him for the 428, 429, and ultimately what evolved into the 460.
You are forgiven since you are a Bowtie after all...but the 428 is based on the older FE dating from 58 or so. the 429/460 appeared in late 60's...both essentially the the same motor...
Having built several of both they are quite different...
The FE's major issue is it's a weight hog. Something they went overboard in addressing with the 289. My last build, probably the last I ever do was a few years back a 390 inch small block...450 hp on pump gas and very streetable...was offered double for what I had in the darn car, and being a capitalist....I no longer have it.
Still have visitation rights though.:D
Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectorial horns
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Old Guy
:lol: Hey. I've owned Shoverollits too.
Actually, I love American iron in it's best examples...I certainly wouldn't turn down a Hemi Cuda, for instance...a friend owned an original Shelby GT500 from 68, i used to race a 428 Mustang...I had one of the original 68's which are pretty rare...it was a beast...then there are 427 Bowtie Corvettes...drool.
Even something as a pedestrian 68 RoadRunner will turn my head.
My short list of 5 cars would include mostly American but several different brands...
Ford to their credit, was very loyal about supporting racers in their old days. To GM's credit, it's much easier and cheaper to build a Chevy motor...
Still rue the day I parted with a 421 tripower Pontiac convertible...
Well, I'd have to side with OG on this one. My garaged ride is an '03 Mustang Cobra 'vert.
I have been eyeing the new Camaro though....:D
Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectorial horns
I have always been partial to Chev Rat motors myself.
I have a 700hp 498 in my 69 Nova. I don't claim it to be a real streetable car, but it is legal and I do drive it for both groceries and to the dragstrip where is has gone 9.40 @ 143 with a little whiff of NOS. Pump gas even.
The newer GM LS engines are quite interesting. Very powerful, easy to hop up, and will even get decent highway mileage.
Ron
Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectorial horns
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Panomaniac
1005 tar filled, for sure! Just ask A.B.
Absolutely !! Go with the Multicells they sound fantastic.The point about them beaming is a moot point for me.If you have them on a sled with a slider bracket you can point them anywhere into the listening area.And if you can put them up high pointing down into listening area full coverage is not a problem.
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Old Guy
I would do the multicells with 288G:2thumbsup:
That's what I'm running now 1005A's tar-filled with the 288C converted to 288-8G
The midrange is Awesome,clean,crisp oh yeah !!
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Old Guy
then there are 427 Bowtie Corvettes...drool.
My Old neighbor had one it was a 69 Stingray with a 427 tri-power 435hp
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bowtie427ss
down the best sounding factory exhaust of the golden muscle era.
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Not so fast I would like to get in this one :D To this day my favorite Motor was what a buddy of mine had. It was the best sounding Big block I ever heard.He was one of the best mechanics in our area Max Polishak. He had a '61 Chevy Impala with a original 409 motor and also had dual quads 2 carter carbs 4 speed this car could burn rubber at 100 m.p.h. in 4th gear.I'll never forget the burn out he left out in front of my house it was around 2 telephone pole lengths 1-4 gear :D Chevy 409 :2thumbsup:
Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectorial horns
Goosh I am humbled. You guys are not only audio engineers but legacy enthusiast. Shelby Cobra GT w/Ford 427. A rocket sled on wheels!
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Sleds it is!.....
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc.../2010/07/9.jpg
They're kinda cool in their own right.....even if the horns are 500HZ, and the instructions are for 400Hz....:doh:
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2010/07/10.jpg
Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectoral horns
There you go.You will be the ultimate judge of sound in your space.Let us know what you think after all said and done.I think you will be quite pleased.;)
Re: Altec Manta-ray horns versus the legacy Altec multi-cell and sectorial horns
By cracky, they do go sleddin in the south, y'all just do it different.:2thumbsup:
And, since we've mentioned "engine building" and "sleds" in the same thread, this is a great place to drop a couple pics of a sled that i restored and built an engine for a couple years back.
I've lost my lust for big engines that make big power, but i'm still rather fond of small engines that make big power as i'm able to do all the work including much of the machining myself.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...27ss/94cat.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/catmotor.jpg
